**DOES NOT RUN WINDOWS 7, 8, VISTA, or XP**
Two decades ago, you could buy a Sinclair ZX81 computer for under $100. Now you can get a much more capable "Netbooklet" for that price. Also known as the TinyBook, SmartBook, or Wireless Book, this is the 7-inch Sylvania Netbook, running Windows CE 6.0 on an ARM-compatible VIA 8505 CPU. It has built-in Wireless G connectivity, and has basic Internet functionality, including the ability to view YouTube videos.
Normal PC applications will not run on it, but if you look hard enough, you can find software for Windows CE (whose interface will remind you a lot of Windows 95). Users have also reported some success in installing Linux or the Google Android operating system. Sylvania also has an "OS Update" available on their web site, but be warned that it wipes out all your files and removes some useful applications, so be sure to do a full backup before installing it.
Nowadays Windows CE can hardly do anything. Android 2.2 is crippling slow and painful to use just like the very few working distros of Linux. Speaking of Linux for these netbooks, it’s out of the question, they either don’t work, can’t do anything with it and internet does not work. I did find a version of Android 1.5.2 that didn’t work. I did find 1.6 which worked very well and doesn’t chop up and choke up that much. Linux would be more usable on an WM8650 or an 8850 that is faster than the WM8505 which are in most netbooks you find. Being stuck with Windows CE for some reason leaves you with IE 6 or using Zetakey which eats up your RAM like crazy. In fact, once Zetakey has to close and the system reported that I had 0MB of RAM left. The only thing now that would give this netbook a use is to use it to connect to a screen share with your main PC.
Hi All, Actually i have 3 of these, myself and both kids had one, we used them as a fancy calendar / diary. At the time it did connect to the internet via wifi and we also have our yahoo email set up on it.
Today , 2 of them still work, but i just turn them on every 6 months to see if they still work.
The battery still charges up and lasts for just over a hour
#1 has a cracked screen, #2 is all original with winc3 but i may have upgraded it via a SD media card, #3 was upgrade 3 or 4 years ago to Android just for fun.
The stock Wince plays mp3 and some other common for the day format , small avi's, it also has cut down version of word and excel - actually it was a good digital diary with a very sharp and scrips screen
I searched for smart media or the cpu type and found a few web links, i have a bag of media card, most are from nokia days and have photos but 1 should have 3 cards with original software , the upgrade and the android version.
I cant remember what i paid from them, but the seller is saved in my ebay dated 11/05/2010 they were about $120-$150 AU each which was about 15-20% of a notebook price
Today it just historic and not collectable
I was wondering... If it has an ARM processor, which is essentially a RISC-based architecture CPU, will it run Windows NT 3.5/4.0, since those versions were designed to be compatible with both x86 and RISC processors?
What's the song played from 13:06-13:36? I've been trying to figure it out for the better part of an hour. I'm probably mishearing the lyrics, and the "search by sound" thing isn't returning anything. I can't get a proper read of the filename or anything.
Windows CE is not a bad operating system, and it is actually very useful in certain applications. Windows CE is not very user friendly because it is designed to be small (the operating system only takes megabytes to run) and run on devices with small processors, such as point of sale systems, car radios, DVRs, etc. where installing a full fledged operating system with a full fledged Intel processor wouldn't be practical. This is a case where someone thought they could make a quick buck using the same technology found in devices previously mentioned, and turning it into a laptop of sorts. It does not work very well because, surprise surprise, it is doing what it is commonly designed to do.
Now you can get a 11” inch laptop with touch screen, removeable keyboard and running Windows 10. They have 1.33GHz Intel quad cores and 2gb of ram for $99. I have one and play System Shock 2, Fallout 1&2 and Rimworld at work on break. It was $99, so if it gets stolen, scratched, broke, stomped or just dies on its own, who cares?
Bill Gate: This is the Window-- *Got Pushed Away By Bill Fence*
Bill Fence: This is the Windows CE. This is like the Windows 3.0! It doesn't even act like Windows 95 or 98! It's just a WINDOWS 3.0! We recommend you to buy this before the new version of Windows comes out! It should be Windows XP... We deleted it and changed it to the Windows Vista! Windows XP is now at the first version ever in Windows! I mean... It's DELETED! Have a happy time using the best system ever Windows CE! *Kills Bill Gate*
Me: WTF is going on now...
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I remember somebody buying this at work. As an IT Manager, I felt so bad to tell the person they just got F*CKED. She was such a nice lady. She was so excited. I told her to bring it back. She was thankful though that I saved her money.
I have one of these things- bought it back in 2012 at a garage sale for $20.00. It was a terrible waste of money- at first.
The update Digital gadgets installed had Windows Wordpad, which was a HUGE improvement. The Youtube add-on for the TCPMP player no longer worked, and IE 6 was mostly- well, my brother worked at Microsoft and didn't have pleasant things to say about it. Overall, it was not very useful.
It has calculators about as good as those on the 2012 ASUS. It has hex editors, and a nifty app for adding images to MP3 songs. CKE is somewhat helpful, and even a couple of art programs. Oh yes, and a good digital book reader.
With Internet Explorer 6 change the cache value to "8192" and the image viewers- including my JS ones- can do far better.
Technicians assured me that it could NOT stream Internet radio, guess what I got it do do by isolating the URLS and putting them into M3U and PLS files? Only iHeart (Flash) stations are a problem.
If I can figure out how to change memory allocation (no the slider is not the answer) it'll be ten times what it is.
I want to program my own browser, able to shunt HTML5 videos and audio through the TCPMP Player v.81. But getting started- nobody seems eager to help. It would draw memory using something akin to ReadyBoost. But again getting started. I also want to improve its Flash abilities, and add the option to deliberately drop video frames with the TCPMP Players so it can play 360p and even 480p videos well enough.
Fact is, if I can figure out some of these things this netbook will be a perfectly viable device. As it is it is useful even in 2017 so that would be 11 years for a piece of rubbish. A bit slow, what with a 300mHz 8505 ARM processor, but as long as it gets there.
Very interesting. I didn't know k-Mart even sold these at on time! I only found out about Windows CE recently, and find it very fascinating. Can you still find these netbooks anymore and how much are they worth?
The uses for these things are very niche these days. Some digital to analogue hardware boards have C# coding support with WindowsCE drivers. Good for automation. You wouldn't use it online though. EDIT Also, if you live in Ireland you need no TV license to own that netbook since the screen is below 11inches. Hey, I didn't write those rules.
Jorgo Yes and no. Developers could develop a game and port it using Windows CE to make it easier or use SEGA's own kernel which was more powerful. Besides running a game, no, it never runs actual WinCE OS.
I can't see myself buying this in 2010. Even in 2007. If it were a bit more powerful and ran actual XP, then it may have made sense due to the small size and price, but with CE, no way.
Back in 2007/2010 I was still using my Fujitsu Siemens Pentium 3 laptop, and it performs in XP better than this does in CE.
INTEL ARM!!!?????? Brooooo....
ARM architecture has precisely nothing whatsoever to do with Intel. ARM architecture was developed by Acorn Computers in Cambridge, England, in 1984 and is still licensed out by what the company evolved into, ARM holdings, still headquartered in Cambridge, England, and 33 years following the invention of this architecture they still receive a license fee from the likes of Apple, Qualcomm, Mediatek, et. al, every time they produce an ARM-based CPU.
Intel don't produce any ARM based CPUs and have desperately tried competing for the embedded and smartphone / tablet market that ARM CPUs dominate, but aren't going to win because of the inherent low power consumption of the ARM architecture when compared with x86 architecture.
Fun Fact: when the original ARM prototype board was created and hooked up to a BBC Micro host computer the developers noticed that the CPU was running even though they hadn't connected the prototype board to its power supply - the ARM was getting enough power from the current the protection diodes were leaking from the interface it was connected to on the BBC Micro to power it!! Something it's developers had never even conceived as a possibility at the time - they'd never intended it to be a low power consumption CPU, this was mere happenchance, and it would be nearly two decades on before we started to see the architecture used in mainstream smartphones.
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